Comments on: The Rat Park: Addiction and Environmental factors http://the-mouse-trap.com/2008/02/11/the-rat-park-addiction-and-environmental-factors/ The Psychological & Neuroscientific musings of sandygautam Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:07:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sandy G http://the-mouse-trap.com/2008/02/11/the-rat-park-addiction-and-environmental-factors/#comment-367 Sandy G Mon, 18 May 2009 12:05:00 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=219#comment-367 hi Attention_surplus,<br />you are right. Unfortunate incidents like the Vietnam war do provide us an opportunity to verify the rat park claims. I'm sure the results stand for humans and one needs creative parallels with situations like tenement housing to substantiate it. Both of your examples were thought-provoking. I am sure you'll make a good human park for yourself- the next step would be to become a better human park for others:-) hi Attention_surplus,
you are right. Unfortunate incidents like the Vietnam war do provide us an opportunity to verify the rat park claims. I’m sure the results stand for humans and one needs creative parallels with situations like tenement housing to substantiate it. Both of your examples were thought-provoking. I am sure you’ll make a good human park for yourself- the next step would be to become a better human park for others:-)

]]> By: Attention_Surplus http://the-mouse-trap.com/2008/02/11/the-rat-park-addiction-and-environmental-factors/#comment-366 Attention_Surplus Sat, 16 May 2009 15:28:00 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=219#comment-366 I read about "Rat Park" in Wikipedia and found it both fascinating and, when one really thinks about it, embarassingly obvious. If I had to live in a confined steel box and was offered something to make me indifferent to such deplorable conditions, (i.e. heroin,) I'd probably take it too.<br />Of course, one couldn't ethically repeat the experiment on humans. However some parallels in society come to mind. The Vietnam War is one, where a large group of people suddenly found themselves in unbearably stressful surroundings, and at the same time found easy access to opiates. Another example might be in areas of poverty and crime. (Tenement housing projects aren't too far removed from a rat cage.) Has there ever been a comprehensive study of drug use among such populations? (Comprehensive meaning that the data had been meticulously analyzed and all factors that might influence the findings, such as cultural norms, taken into account.)<br />In the meantime, I'm gonna go build myself a "Human Park". I read about “Rat Park” in Wikipedia and found it both fascinating and, when one really thinks about it, embarassingly obvious. If I had to live in a confined steel box and was offered something to make me indifferent to such deplorable conditions, (i.e. heroin,) I’d probably take it too.
Of course, one couldn’t ethically repeat the experiment on humans. However some parallels in society come to mind. The Vietnam War is one, where a large group of people suddenly found themselves in unbearably stressful surroundings, and at the same time found easy access to opiates. Another example might be in areas of poverty and crime. (Tenement housing projects aren’t too far removed from a rat cage.) Has there ever been a comprehensive study of drug use among such populations? (Comprehensive meaning that the data had been meticulously analyzed and all factors that might influence the findings, such as cultural norms, taken into account.)
In the meantime, I’m gonna go build myself a “Human Park”.

]]> By: Adlai http://the-mouse-trap.com/2008/02/11/the-rat-park-addiction-and-environmental-factors/#comment-288 Adlai Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:42:00 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=219#comment-288 Rat Park is paradise for rats, leads to remarkably low rates of spontaneous drug use rates among animal models.As the article goes, this research by Bruce Alexander led him to conclude that drugs even such hard drugs as heroin and cocaine do not cause addiction. the user’s environment does. The Rat Trap piece over at The Walrus Magazine goes on to examine the Rat Park research.Alexander’s research reveals that addiction rates are low when societies are stable, and they rise at times of social disruption. The extreme case is the aboriginal people.You do not have anything identifiable as addiction until you screw up their culture, and then alcoholism becomes a major problem. In extreme cases, addiction rates can go from zero to close to 100 percent.’ Such spikes suggest that environment is a stronger determinant of addiction than chemistry. <br/>--------------<br/>Adlai<br/><br/><a HREF="http://www.addictionlink.org/drug-rehab-center/nova-scotia" REL="nofollow">nova scotia drug rehab </a> Rat Park is paradise for rats, leads to remarkably low rates of spontaneous drug use rates among animal models.As the article goes, this research by Bruce Alexander led him to conclude that drugs even such hard drugs as heroin and cocaine do not cause addiction. the user’s environment does. The Rat Trap piece over at The Walrus Magazine goes on to examine the Rat Park research.Alexander’s research reveals that addiction rates are low when societies are stable, and they rise at times of social disruption. The extreme case is the aboriginal people.You do not have anything identifiable as addiction until you screw up their culture, and then alcoholism becomes a major problem. In extreme cases, addiction rates can go from zero to close to 100 percent.’ Such spikes suggest that environment is a stronger determinant of addiction than chemistry.
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]]> By: criean http://the-mouse-trap.com/2008/02/11/the-rat-park-addiction-and-environmental-factors/#comment-244 criean Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:55:00 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=219#comment-244 Rat is always the one to be tested in the laboratory before they will say it to the public. What's in the rat? Do the rat have the same characteristics with the man? That is rally my question since I was in my high school years. Just like in the article, they have rats that was caged and rats that are exposed to drugs. So, what happened to the rats is also applicable to the humans. Is that it?<br/>______________________<br/><br/>cutie_tech123<br/>Suffering from an addiction. This website has a lot of great resources and treatment centers. <br/> http://www.treatmentcenters.org Rat is always the one to be tested in the laboratory before they will say it to the public. What’s in the rat? Do the rat have the same characteristics with the man? That is rally my question since I was in my high school years. Just like in the article, they have rats that was caged and rats that are exposed to drugs. So, what happened to the rats is also applicable to the humans. Is that it?
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