But there is no individual new recipe that is being added and no feedback to do anything but mechanics until something else is suggested. Then that something else is copied. The chaos comes from misapplying the copying which is going to feel chaotic to humans as there is no feeling and being and qualia involved…no 'sense' or context.

from a p-zombie (without an individial recipe ;-(

BTW How can a zombie be detected other than frustration and uncomfortableness felt by those with 'sense'? Can this difference way of responding to stimulation around be seen in science eg. a functional MRI do you think?

I am glad you liked the post and took the 'zombie' metaphor in the right spirit. The SGCOSS sounds quite a mouthful, but the buffet metaphor is right on target. I would presume that bipolar, creative, novel, ADD, obsessions would be served on the consciousness side while depression (anhedonia type), mechanical , repetitive, ADHD, and compulsions would be served on the reality-orientation side, but I may be wrong and these are empirical matters to be settled. Anyway, the SGCOSS need not be an all-encompassing framework that has diagnostic or treatment implications for all sorts of mental phenomenon. I am sure there are constructs other than the SGCOSS that affect human behavior and phenomenology.

But I like the SGCOSS framework–particularly because it addresses a nagging question that I’ve had ever since I stumbled upon The Mouse Trap.

I routinely hang out with quite a few children who are diagnosed with varying degrees of autism–and I think I would now want to reclassify several of them on to the magical thinking side of your spectrum. (Which is, in pre-Sandynese, on the schizophrenia-biased end of your spectrum.)

The Aspies–I agree–should stay put. That’s the “real” autism. But some of my little guys who are nonverbal and highly scripted–the ones everyone thinks of as “the most” autistic, I wonder if may actually be biased toward “consciousness orientation.”

I would assign savant skills into two different sides of the spectrum; reality-oriented savant skills resulting from repetition, and consciousness-oriented savant skills resulting from…well, magic. (like the nonverbal child who sits at the piano for the first time and plays Mozart.)

And, being neither scientist nor statistician, I need help visualizing all of this information. I can visualize a spectrum with a dot at one end that demarks autism (reality-orientation) and a dot on the other end that demarks schizophrenia (consciousness-orientation), and a dot in the middle of those two dots that demarks typical/normal. (Btw, no one is ever plotted on this dot –because I want the saying “normal is a myth” to be true! Everyone is plotted either to the left or the right of “normal!”)

But is there a way to visually express or plot on the SGCOSS related biases/traits/tendencies such as: depression/bi-polar, mechanical/creative, methodical/novel, ADD/ADHD, negative affect/positive affect/, low arousal/high arousal, repetitive thought/novel thought, inhibition/disinhibition, obsessions/compulsions, addiction, religiosity, speed of thought, theory of mind, etc.? I am seeking a visually efficient yet more encompassing and flexible construct than “spectrum“ for the filing of such information into my non-scientist brain. Any ideas?

How about a two-sided buffet line in an all-you-can-eat restaurant? All people are either on the consciousness orientation side of the buffet line or the reality side. What will be served in abundance on each side of the buffet line?

I know, I know. The buffet line construct is unconventional. But you “went all zombie” on us, and that worked!