Comments on: Seeing is believing : why delusions may arise from anomalous experiences http://the-mouse-trap.com/2009/11/20/seeing-is-believing-why-delusions-may-arise-from-anomalous-experiences/ The Psychological & Neuroscientific musings of sandygautam Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:07:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: forex robot http://the-mouse-trap.com/2009/11/20/seeing-is-believing-why-delusions-may-arise-from-anomalous-experiences/#comment-707 forex robot Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:24:06 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=458#comment-707 nice post. thanks. nice post. thanks.

]]> By: sandygautam http://the-mouse-trap.com/2009/11/20/seeing-is-believing-why-delusions-may-arise-from-anomalous-experiences/#comment-706 sandygautam Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:40:15 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=458#comment-706 Hi Peter, I owe you an apology. I had actually forgotten about the matrix red pill/blue pill analogy I had used in the post, and seen out of context I inferred that you meant 'pill' as in medication (an earlier commenter had commented to the tune that do I ever use seroquel, so that memory got triggered) and were insinuating that i was out of my mind/ hallucinating:-) I now realize that no offence was meant:-) the perils of reading comments out of context:-) I agree that correlation does not imply causation, but I do believe that many of the scizoyypal prodormal tendencies like magical thinking are not just correlated to the acute psychotic experience but are causative. I know that clear evidence may not be there, but there is much food for thought here. Hi Peter, I owe you an apology. I had actually forgotten about the matrix red pill/blue pill analogy I had used in the post, and seen out of context I inferred that you meant ‘pill’ as in medication (an earlier commenter had commented to the tune that do I ever use seroquel, so that memory got triggered) and were insinuating that i was out of my mind/ hallucinating:-) I now realize that no offence was meant:-) the perils of reading comments out of context:-)

I agree that correlation does not imply causation, but I do believe that many of the scizoyypal prodormal tendencies like magical thinking are not just correlated to the acute psychotic experience but are causative. I know that clear evidence may not be there, but there is much food for thought here.

]]> By: Peter K http://the-mouse-trap.com/2009/11/20/seeing-is-believing-why-delusions-may-arise-from-anomalous-experiences/#comment-704 Peter K Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:22:53 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=458#comment-704 "the two types of thinking referred to above are : that magical explanations hold better than causal and statistical explanations; and that trickery is being played on me; the first type of magical thinking is shown to be robustly correlated with psychosis; the second type of thinking is what many of the psychotics report (content of delusions) ." I get the correlations, but how's this different from saying for example that thoughts of aggressive behaviour are furtile ground for psychotics. The association it infers that if you have thoughts of aggressive behaviour you might just be or become psychotic. You might not have intended implying that but it read that way to me. My comment wasn't meant as a personal attack- it was a playful use of words in the context of your writing, hoping to point out something that can be misinterpreted pretty easily. “the two types of thinking referred to above are : that magical explanations hold better than causal and statistical explanations; and that trickery is being played on me; the first type of magical thinking is shown to be robustly correlated with psychosis; the second type of thinking is what many of the psychotics report (content of delusions) .”

I get the correlations, but how’s this different from saying for example that thoughts of aggressive behaviour are furtile ground for psychotics. The association it infers that if you have thoughts of aggressive behaviour you might just be or become psychotic.
You might not have intended implying that but it read that way to me.

My comment wasn’t meant as a personal attack- it was a playful use of words in the context of your writing, hoping to point out something that can be misinterpreted pretty easily.

]]> By: sandygautam http://the-mouse-trap.com/2009/11/20/seeing-is-believing-why-delusions-may-arise-from-anomalous-experiences/#comment-703 sandygautam Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:22:57 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=458#comment-703 the two types of thinking referred to above are : that magical explanations hold better than causal and statistical explanations; and that trickery is being played on me; the first type of magical thinking is shown to be robustly correlated with psychosis; the second type of thinking is what many of the psychotics report (content of delusions) . BTW , what sort of pill have you been taken to believe in syncronicity/synchronism? and remember comments are moderated, so no personal attacks in future. the two types of thinking referred to above are : that magical explanations hold better than causal and statistical explanations; and that trickery is being played on me; the first type of magical thinking is shown to be robustly correlated with psychosis; the second type of thinking is what many of the psychotics report (content of delusions) .

BTW , what sort of pill have you been taken to believe in syncronicity/synchronism? and remember comments are moderated, so no personal attacks in future.

]]> By: Peter K http://the-mouse-trap.com/2009/11/20/seeing-is-believing-why-delusions-may-arise-from-anomalous-experiences/#comment-702 Peter K Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:14:45 +0000 http://the-mouse-trap.com/?p=458#comment-702 "Both types of thinking are fertile ground for psychosis and delusions." You seem to be implying that people that qualify events as synchronistic are psychotic or delusional or are in danger to be. What pill have you been taking? “Both types of thinking are fertile ground for psychosis and delusions.”
You seem to be implying that people that qualify events as synchronistic are psychotic or delusional or are in danger to be. What pill have you been taking?

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